JFK RFK Assassinations Updates

JFK RFK Assassinations Updates

The Ochelli Effect 11-22-2018 Carmine Savastano and Mike Swanson

Sinister History never sleeps. Hours before Black Friday, We revisited the original Nightmare on Elm Street. This Thors Day was not only Thanksgiving in the States, But also marks 55 years since The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Naturally, Carmine Savastano joined Chuck to discuss the JFK Assassination. In the first hour, we had the special bonus co-host normally heard on Tuesdays, Mike Swanson. https://wallstreetwindow.com

The two authors and Chuck discussed Ed Landsdale, Vietnam, Media silence, and The 2018 Lancer Conference that Carmine and Michael both attended this year.

The Second hour Carmine presented some evidence in the RFK case that seems to have been left in unresolved land with the LAPD. It turns out the official investigation into Bobby Kennedy’s murder had in its files a fairly well-documented case for Conspiracy regarding the assassination.

The seemingly long-ignored evidence was the centerpiece of Carmine’s presentation at Lancer ( http://jfklancer.com/Dallas2018/index.html ) last week

There is always more to be discovered by those who will work to uncover deeply buried pieces to puzzles with care. Discussions of process and Conspiracy from a fundamental perspective were also included.

There is an AFTER EFFECT portion that is in the 2018 exclusives page under media and posted to The Ochelli Effect Patreon page which is not included in this 2-hour podcast version of the broadcast.

Chuck has taken some extra rest this week. This will not become a common practice.


JFK RFK Assassinations Updates

Carmine References:
R 1: Senate Select Committee to Study Intelligence Activities, Miscellaneous Files, National Archives and Records Administration, archives.gov, July 22, 1975
R 2: Operation Mongoose, JFK Investigation Files, tpaak.com
R 3: Senate Sel. Comm., Testimony of General Edward Lansdale Re: Cuban Operation, The Mary Ferrell Foundation, maryferrell.org, July 8, 1975, pp. 23-24
R 4: RFK Related Individuals of Note, RFK Investigation Files, tpaak.com

Chuck adds LINKS:

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JFK RFK Assassinations Updates

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  1. Doug Exeter November 23, 2018 at 1:18 pm - Reply

    These shows on the 60s assassinations are always very interesting, thanks.

    • Ochelli November 24, 2018 at 8:46 pm - Reply

      Thank you. If you have any suggestions about things I have not covered yet, feel free to drop me a line.

  2. Chris November 24, 2018 at 10:32 am - Reply

    Wow! Excellent and very interesting work, Carmine.

    Who would have thought that after all these years this information would come to light?

    • Ochelli November 24, 2018 at 8:51 pm - Reply

      Apparently Larry Titter (I am sure I spelled that wrong saw it, but I don’t think anyone has ever done a presentation showing the information. It was new to me outside of vague allegations I have heard over the years.

  3. Joy Hunt November 24, 2018 at 3:21 pm - Reply

    Guys, if you are going to do another myths show, could you annihilate that Beverly Oliver nonsense? That whole story really grinds my gears.

    Thanks, Joy

    • Ochelli November 24, 2018 at 8:48 pm - Reply

      We have covered that before, but if you think it should be examined again, I am more than happy to do so.

  4. Joy Hunt November 25, 2018 at 3:24 am - Reply

    That would be great, Chuck.

    Honestly, to me she’s almost as bad as Baker. OK, so she doesn’t make quite the “industry”of her claims as Baker does, but it’s like she’s a clone in the way she just keeps making things up as other new information is discovered.

    I don’t think Baker has yet made the claim that Oliver is her clone, but if she sees this she probably will. In fact, she probably grew Oliver in a lab dish as part of the US government cloning experiments she carried out in Ferrie’s kitchen with Oswald after being recruited by Kennedy to negotiate with the aliens who eventually killed him. Fact!


  5. Ochelli November 25, 2018 at 10:22 am - Reply

    That is hilarious. She might need a time machine in there too. Oliver was making the rounds in Texas as early as the 70s. I first saw her in 88 and around the time the ruby movie was made on Geraldo when he was just ripping off the Donahue TV formula previous to his career impersonating a journalist, but long after his career as a second-rate talk show host. All the while everything is Al Capone’s vault. Lots of noise getting overpaid to reveal nothing after a lot of build-ups. The only things of value that guy ever did was to show the z-film and interview Manson. In Summation, F Geraldo. Sorry, that was totally unrequired writing on my part. LOL

  6. Carmine Savastano November 25, 2018 at 9:56 pm - Reply

    Thanks for all the supportive comments everyone, they are truly appreciated.

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